An insult and a humiliation

You have got to be kidding me. While discussing human rights in China with the Chinese government, the American negotiators denounced Arizona:

The United States and China reported no major breakthroughs Friday after only their second round of talks about human rights since 2002.

The Obama administration wants to push Beijing to treat its citizens better, but it also needs Chinese support on Iranian and North Korean nuclear standoffs, climate change and other difficult issues.


[Michael] Posner said in addition to talks on freedom of religion and expression, labor rights and rule of law, officials also discussed Chinese complaints about problems with U.S. human rights, which have included crime, poverty, homelessness and racial discrimination.

He said U.S. officials did not whitewash the American record and in fact raised on its own a new immigration law in Arizona that requires police to ask about a person’s immigration status if there is suspicion the person is in the country illegally.

I’m flabbergasted. To hold up the Arizona law as an example of American human rights violations as part of some public breast-beating is ludicrous. For one, Arizona SB 1070 (PDF) mirrors federal law on the subject and merely makes what was already a federal offense a state crime, too. It contains even stricter protections against ethnic profiling than the corresponding federal law. To use it as an example of a “human rights violation” is just plain ignorant and stupid. Has anyone in DC bothered to read the bill?

It’s also a tremendous insult to Arizonans, who are rightly concerned about the problems caused in their state by illegal immigration, and a humiliation of the United States.  China’s record of human rights violations since the Communists took power in 1949 is long and grotesque; to mention in passing just Tibet, Tiananmen Square, and the state-induced famine that killed tens of millions, would barely scratch the surface. And it continues to this day.

What kind of idiots do we have representing us? Putting a law that the vast majority of Americans approve of on the same level as the actions of the butchers of Beijing is nonsensical at best, and to criticize an American state to a foreign government is absolutely unacceptable.

I realize the Obama administration looks down on the country it governs; we’ve known that from before his election. But do they have to slap us in the face to ingratiate themselves with bloody-handed dictators, too?

(via Power Line)

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  2. sasoc says:

    The continuous stream of anti-Americanism from this White House can only be explained by Obama’s recent comments about the planet Mars…

  3. archer52 says:

    This whole Arizona/police/detention/law/ stuff is in my wheelhouse. I spent twenty years on the street applying the law written by lawyers who were convinced they were the smartest people in the room against actual trial lawyers who, on occasion, WERE the smartest people in the room.

    So, before you jump off the cliff with everybody else singing the praises of the Arizona law, let me save you from your embarrassing fate. And bare with me for a minute or two because the problem is complicated as is the solution.

    First, the law is badly written by state level government paid lawyers who anticipated being challenged by better qualified private attorneys in some future civil rights violation case. And they will.

    Second, while the intentions are good and Arizona needs to do something to combat the civil war the Mexicans are having on Arizona’s border THIS law will not solve it. Why? Politics and protecting political donors.

    Have you read the law? I did. I did from a police on the street perspective. Where the law actually gets applied, and I am here to tell you it is a bomb waiting to go off. As one of my ex-partners said, “This is the time to be a Hispanic lawyer living in Arizona! Just get in a beat up car, carry no ID and circle around the border until someone stops you. You’ll end up rich.”

    I’m not going to bind up your comment section with a real long post. Let me cover the highlights-

    1. Is the law racist? Yes, on paper. Read the law and then read the Oklahoma law, passed in 2007, compare the one key difference. In Oklahoma it is a felony to employ an illegal (what we can all agree on is one of major reasons illegals come here). In Arizona not only is it NOT a felony it isn’t a crime (outside day labor). Instead the AG and the local DA have to decide whether or not to even investigate a complaint and the worst that can happen is suspension of the business license for a short time.

    How is that racist? Take a look at the census. Over eighty percent of all businesses in Arizona are white owned. Now they didn’t intend (I hope) to write it with racist intent, but a lawyer would beat this one aspect to death in court. What they were doing was protecting their donor base- always the politics.

    Remember all cops profile and should, it makes them more efficient because the reality on the street is that only a certain percentage of the population is criminal and they usually fall into some kind of identifiable descriptions. However, NOW that Arizona has decided to put itself under a spotlight, every legitimate action by the police will be examined by ACLU lawyers looking to make that “poster boy” case. Some poor cop, trying to execute the letter of the law will get jammed up and could lose his job, money and freedom (ask Stacy Koon. Worse, I’ll bet you dinner the lawyers who wrote the law so “carefully” will distance themselves from it by saying “That cop screwed up, we didn’t intend it to work that way!” You keep this post and I’ll buy dinner if I’m wrong.

    Read this post about profiling

    In Arizona apparently the lawyers there wrote this law knee jerk fashion without really taking the time to address the actual issues met by the police on the street, as usual. Just a wave of a pen and a “you handle the details” command. Well, where the rubber meets the road is when this will all come apart. This post is an example of what will really happen.

    As a lark I looked over at the Oklahoma law. They made it a felony to do about anything with an illegal including employing them. So there was no bias written in the law. The end result was an exodus of illegals in a very short time. In one of the above posts was what I would have done if god for a day in Arizona. I wrote this before I read the Oklahoma law. It seems we were on the same page.

    This is simple really and it is unfortunate that Arizona tried to get cute and tried it now resulting in this mess(Why not AFTER the Nov. elections? Sure local pressures were high, but still why hand Obama a stick to beat you with?). I was accused of being a racist by Redstate for opposing how the law was written, like you, they were all about supporting this perfect piece of legislation. So perfect that two weeks after it was written, it was rewritten. Though still not address the big issue- employment.

    Am I a racist? No, hardly. But I am a realist and a former cop who has been on the wrong end of good intentions going awry. Here is the best lesson I was taught by a senior prosecutor after I complained about the unfairness of a ruling. “Ray, remember this- Justice or injustice, truth or lies, good or bad, fair or unfair have nothing to do with the law. It serves only itself.” This is why the police on the street will get jammed up trying to do the right thing.

    It is really simple. Cut off the private money and the public money. Make it illegal to be illegal here. Detain only those you have a separate charge on and refuse bail until their identifies are confirmed. (The whole point of bail is to make sure the person is who he is and will show up in court right?) If they are found to be illegals deport them. Don’t get into the weeds by having citizens be able to sue department that do not enforce the law, do not get into the weeds by taking calls about “you need to do something about all the Mexicans on the street corner.” (which are already happening according to one Chief)

    They won’t come here if they can’t eat, work or get free stuff or be safe here. Who would?

    See simple. Don’t jump I’m begging you.

    • Phineas Fahrquar says:

      Actually, I have read the law. At 16 pages, it’s a lot easier to digest than the recent health-care bill. 🙂

      Now, I agree with you about the OK law taking a right approach in punishing employers who hire illegals, but (and granting your greater experience), I don’t see anything in the law that’s a) racist or b) crossing the line into illegal stops. A court may well disagree with me, but it seems to me the AZ legislature wrote a bill that goes out of its way to meet standards.

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